# Laser Dye Jonthinobacterium lividum **URL:** \ **Category:** Kitchen\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552 "2019-05-08T11:58:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![weiweiweiwear](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/weiweiweiwear/32/570_2.png) [@weiweiweiwear](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/weiweiweiwear)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/1 "2019-05-08T11:58:37Z")
Hi all Just to know if there’s information about Jonthinobacterium Lividum is photosensitive to certain light spectrum? can laser effects its’ growing? this is what I found for the basic part: [https://urbanbeelab.okno.be/doku.php?id=dyeing\_with\_bacteria](https://urbanbeelab.okno.be/doku.php?id=dyeing_with_bacteria) ---
**Author:** ![dusjagr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/dusjagr/32/24_2.png) [@dusjagr](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/dusjagr)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/2 "2019-05-17T03:53:34Z")
I have been looking into this list of materials from the fabric-academy. very well done! > **[Fabricademy: Inventory and consumables](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TvBthCZPWZrIqn_Ew0iTUXM_QmK9HLjZkhyg8D-4SXM/edit#gid=471779950)** > > FABLAB > > MACHINE,# option,BRAND,TYPOLOGY,MODEL,cost EU,reference lab,notes,links > LASERCUT,1,trotec,80W CO2 Laser System, 39"X24" bed, includes cutting table, air assist, Trolley base, 2 yr warranty,80W CO2 Laser System,$32,900.00 > Option: Built in Air... let’s collect some ideas here on different bacterial dies, photosensitive bio-materials and sonogenetic opto-quantum tesla microboes. i guess we talk to our good old friends at waag to get some stuff when we need. > **[BioShades - workshop](https://waag.org/en/event/bioshades-workshop)** > > With BioShades we explore the potential of dyeing with bacteria as a less harmful alternative in TextileLab Amsterdam. Dye with bacteria yourself and connect with TCBL labs across Europe during the workshop! ---
**Author:** ![tiareribeaux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@tiareribeaux](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/tiareribeaux)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:42am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/3 "2019-05-17T06:42:27Z")
Sounds like an incredible list! 💫💫 Would love to add to it, but the link is not working… ---
**Author:** ![dusjagr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/dusjagr/32/24_2.png) [@dusjagr](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/dusjagr)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/4 "2019-05-17T08:53:32Z")
edited the link above. was mistake in copy / paste ---
**Author:** ![dusjagr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/dusjagr/32/24_2.png) [@dusjagr](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/dusjagr)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/5 "2019-05-20T04:39:59Z")
Found this publication on e.coli that was turned RGB light sensitive. [https://www.nature.com/news/light-sensitive-e-coli-paint-a-colourful-picture-1.22026](https://www.nature.com/news/light-sensitive-e-coli-paint-a-colourful-picture-1.22026) mbe we can just ask them to send some over. here is the original “behind-the-paywall” paper: [nchembio.2390.pdf](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/hackteria/original/1X/e04ccce5fcfee069d5c04769236b50f59be24481.pdf) (1.4 MB) ---
**Author:** ![mamaya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/mamaya/32/1025_2.png) [@mamaya](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/mamaya)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/6 "2019-05-31T07:02:17Z")
hei hei weiwei nice to meat you, have a look at this project here and further notes on the wiki. hopefully we can meet in taiwan. [https://www.hackteria.org/wiki/DIY\_or\_DYE\_-\_BadLab\_project](https://www.hackteria.org/wiki/DIY_or_DYE_-_BadLab_project) ---
**Author:** ![weiweiweiwear](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/weiweiweiwear/32/570_2.png) [@weiweiweiwear](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/weiweiweiwear)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/7 "2019-05-31T09:15:41Z")
Hello mamaya Super cooool I’d love to participate with your project here or there, I also have great interests for those bacteria dyes, I’m curious if there are possibilities to grow it with light/laser etching influences participate! best, Wei mamaya via Global Hackteria Network [hackteria@discoursemail.com](mailto:hackteria@discoursemail.com) 於 2019年5月31日 下午3:12 寫道： ---
**Author:** ![weiweiweiwear](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/weiweiweiwear/32/570_2.png) [@weiweiweiwear](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/weiweiweiwear)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/8 "2019-06-02T10:53:00Z")
Hello mamaya Super cooool I’d love to participate with your project here or there, I also have great interests for those bacteria dyes, I’m curious if there are possibilities to grow it with light/laser etching influences participate! best, Wei ---
**Author:** ![dusjagr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/dusjagr/32/24_2.png) [@dusjagr](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/dusjagr)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/9 "2019-06-25T17:01:30Z")
Looking into other “sunlight” sensitive dies made from Kaki aka Persimmon… > **[Kakishibu Persimmon Dye of Japan](https://kimbrowndesign.blogspot.com/2016/10/kakishibu-persimmon-dye-of-japan.html)** > > My San José Rose Garden home, built in 1926, has a persimmon tree in the backyard. It was there before we purchased the house in 1982. Mos... maybe can also be patterned with UV exposure instead of sunlight? > **[Kaki Shibu / Persimmon Tannin Dyeing Season Begins](http://japanesetextileworkshops.blogspot.com/2012/07/kaki-shibu-persimmon-tannin-dyeing.html)** > > The Monsoon is officially over and the temperature is soaring. The sky is a dark blue. It thunders every afternoon. It is time for dyeing w... ---
**Author:** ![corinna.mattner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@corinna.mattner](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/corinna.mattner)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/10 "2019-06-27T08:24:38Z")
Hey Marc and Wei yes I have read about this too, its pretty interesting. I would love to do some trials. They (the Japanese , haha, very general) use unripe fruits. And the persimon juice is also used for making paper water resistant. They also use it to make the Rice Shibori patterns. And I think it also needs to ferment in advance. Are you in Geneva too? When are you next in Randen? I bet there will be some of our desired bacteria in our burried clothes, (or in the rest of them) I would very much like to participate more! See you soon! Corinna ---
**Author:** ![weiweiweiwear](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/weiweiweiwear/32/570_2.png) [@weiweiweiwear](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/weiweiweiwear)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/11 "2019-06-27T08:44:49Z")
hey Corinna Thanks for the reply, basically I am looking for dyes with photosensitive properties to UV, so I can “laser dye” those fabric in large scale. I now am using cyanotype and it works pretty well. I thought persimmon dye and bacteria dye might turns this toxic process completely nature. Unfortunately I am based in Taipei, but will meet Marc soon hopefully in the near future. > **[Shih Wei Chieh](https://shihweichieh.com/laserdye)** > > Shih Wei Chieh is a media artist on e-textile, wearables, technologies in social practice. > **[laser dye print index — Shih Wei Chieh](https://shihweichieh.com/laser-dye-print-index)** > > canvas embroidery > **[\[Album\] Shih Wei Chieh / 施 惟 捷’s Instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw7IU70nHZN/)** ---
**Author:** ![dusjagr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/dusjagr/32/24_2.png) [@dusjagr](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/dusjagr)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/12 "2019-06-27T09:34:33Z")
> [@weiweiweiwear](#): > > Unfortunately I am based in Taipei not soooo unfortunate place to be 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![corinna.mattner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@corinna.mattner](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/corinna.mattner)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/13 "2019-06-29T11:29:18Z")
Dear Wei marc showed me your work earlier - thats really cool. i was actually wondering two years ago of cyanotype would work with lazer, and we didnt have those strong lazers to try it. Is cyanotype salt toxic??? How long does the lazer need to point to the spot to print? What Is Taipeh like? ---
**Author:** ![weiweiweiwear](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/weiweiweiwear/32/570_2.png) [@weiweiweiwear](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/weiweiweiwear)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/14 "2019-08-20T11:55:10Z")
Hi there! sorry for the late reply, you don’t really need a strong laser, it’s more about the responding spectrum. I use 405nm/250mw laser with focus lens. And for chemical I use the updated version of cyanotype invented by Mike Ware. [https://www.mikeware.co.uk/mikeware/New\_Cyanotype\_Process.html](https://www.mikeware.co.uk/mikeware/New_Cyanotype_Process.html) ---
**Author:** ![weiweiweiwear](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.hackteria.org/weiweiweiwear/32/570_2.png) [@weiweiweiwear](https://forum.hackteria.org/u/weiweiweiwear)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.hackteria.org/t/laser-dye-jonthinobacterium-lividum/552/15 "2019-11-03T15:39:28Z")
Maybe @corinna.mattner you know this company? maybe can ask bacteria from them. [https://www.pili.bio](https://www.pili.bio)