Whole tree ecology

HUMUS.Sapiens
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Hi, I am not sure if this belongs under Humus sapiens, please move if this subject is too broad. Also sorry for being absent for about a year. I now have energy and time to work with Humus sapiens and other stuff.

I have three scientific measurement systems on mind that could be made into “DIY kits”. With these measurements, it is possible to understand pretty much what is going on with trees.

The first one is soil CO2 flux chamber, which is now working, but not yet v1.0 I think. CO2 flux chamber is used to measure how much CO2 soil is emitting to the atmosphere. It also pretty much tells how much (microbial) activity there is in soil. The measurement system is portable.

The second one is a sapflow measurement system. It is used to measure how much water trees are transporting in the stem (tree trunk). The flow rate is directly linked to photosynthesis of the plant, and can also be used to measure the drought stress of trees. The system is simple to build and understand, but it requires permanent installation to the trees, including drilling two holes to the tree (5mm radius, 10 cm in length). The measurement itself requires a couple of days of constant current (about 1W) to make sense.

The third system would be transpiration (evaporation of water through the plant) measurement using IR thermography. I did my master’s thesis about this (unfortunately in Finnish). It’s a simple system that allows measuring transpiration from a single leaf. This measurement requires IR thermometer, and an artificial leaf that heated (this is the DIY part). Also clear instructions how to do the measurements are needed (I can do it).

The CO2 soil flux chamber can be modified to measure also how much tree stem is producing CO2. This is for example related to tree growth (formation of wood). In addition, the same chamber system can be modified to measure photosynthesis from branches. To make it state-of-the-art, a small pump with constant air flow would be preferred.

With the tree measurement systems, it is possible to measure the carbon cycling in the forests, and even get a measurement-based (quantitative) estimation of how large carbon sink a forest is. Canopy (leaves) is an interface between living and non-living world. It is also where (almost) all the energy used in nature is originating. Soil is another interface between living (roots and microbes) and non-living (dead organic material, mineral soil) world. The water transport acts as a link between soil and the canopy of the trees. In fact, the water tension acts as a kind of neural system for trees: the roots sense what is happening in the canopy.

I can provide technical details and support for the measurements and data analysis starting from October 2019.

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Considering sapflow measurements, the most used and simplest method is so called Granier method. The measurement is based on the analogy between water and heat transport, and heat transport is measured. Two temperature sensors are installed vertically on a tree stem (trunk; about 10cm distance of each other). The upper sensor is heated with a constant power input. The higher the (upward) water flow in the stem is, the smaller is the temperature difference between the sensors is, the higher is the water transport. During night, it is assumed that there is no transport, and this gives the temperature difference with no transport. The day-time values are then calculated based on this value.

The system as such is simple. Absolute temperatures are not needed, only the temperature difference between the sensors is needed. The upper sensor needs to be heated, typically by rolling a wire with known resistance around the temperature sensor, and giving it constant power. The sensors are semi-permanently installed into the tree, usually inside a metal tube, which is filled with material that conducts heat. A time-series of temperature difference is then recorded. At least two days of data is needed in order to get reasonable numbers.

I will provide more information later, if there is interest for this measurement.

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My institute (INAR / University of Helsinki) is organizing a workshop for sapflow researchers in Hyytiälä in this october (2019; http://www.atm.helsinki.fi/sapflow/). The workshop is fully booked, but I will be participating as a organizer, but also because I would like to see if there is enthusiastic researchers that would like to join establishing an amateur sapflow measurement community. This is also a good opportunity to advertise Humus sapiens activities to researchers.

I plan to make a poster about our Climate Whirl (www.climatewhirl.fi) Humus sapiens activities in general, especially related to possible future DIY sapflow measurement network, but also about the DIY CO2 chamber etc. This includes a very short abstract that I have already drafted.

I would like to know whether people like this idea or not, and if they are potentially interested or not. So please answer me here, or by private message.

Also let me know by Monday morning if you would like to have your name in the abstract / poster. By having name there would imply that you have been contributing or you would like to contribute to the topics mentioned in this thread. I can then send you the abstract for commenting etc (I need to submit it on Tuesday the latest, the poster I will do the first week of October).

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Hay Pannu, did get any reply to your post yet from the community?

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@MalteLarsen - thanks for reminding me that this thread exists :wink:

@Pannu - I recently met some nice people in Munich who are working on tree sensors to study forest health and environmental stress. I’ll try to bring them here to the forum.

let’s get deeper into this!!

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@julian welcome:)

Yes, it sounds super interesting! A bit late of a reply, but did you finish the poster?

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I am happy to see that someone is so much interested, that there is a reply! :slight_smile:

I have not heard much from this community, but I presented my poster to researchers around the globe, and many were interested. This is definitely needed.

We/I have work to do. But doing this alone does not make much sens.

@julian I know some researchers from Garmisch, although that is not exactly Münich. I have been there a couple of times. Perhaps I know them? If not, even better!

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Hei Pannu!!

good that you answer!! I actually live quite close to Garmisch, but i don’t know any tree researchers there…

let’s organize a digital meeting!!?!
next week maybe?

terveisiä,
j.

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@julian Hi, I am here, I would love to meet. I will try to answer more quickly in the future.

@MalteLarsen, I thought I replied to you, but clearly not. Yes I finished the poster, they (my posters) are getting less and less scientific (which is good, I think).

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we have an interesting team already:

  • Pannu
  • Alicia
  • Malte
  • Julian

I sent all of you an email to connect and schedule a meeting!!
Lets work with trees… :slight_smile: